Can anyone give me a link/reference to where I can find the stats often written about that more women file for divorce than men?
Thanks
Can anyone give me a link/reference to where I can find the stats often written about that more women file for divorce than men?
Thanks
Can’t help, although I believe I once saw in some Iowa study that 70% were women. I don’t remember the study though.
Ame, when I was in law school, I did a major research paper in which I presented a case for creating a rebuttable presumption in contested child custody proceedings against the spouse who filed for divorce, and I found many sources that indicated about two-thirds of all divorce proceedings were filed by women. I can give you a whole laundry list of references… but all you really need to do is Google “most divorces initiated by women” or “percent of divorces initiated by women” and you’ll find literally hundreds of thousands of hits. Of course, the number of RELIABLE hits will be considerably lower… but if you look hard enough, you can find some that are reasonably well-referenced. I can also steer you to a couple of books I used when I wrote the paper.
Would those statistics include the number of “men” who, upon leaving their wives also leave them with all the financial burdens & responsibilities, because they are too busy sowing their oats? I’m sure that factor plays in there somewhere.
We don’t need facts to back up what everyone knows is true.
@Tha Possum
I’m sure it includes all types, to include the “man” who leaves his wife holding the proverbial bag as he dallies around, to the “woman” who leaves the husband, takes the kids, does everything in her power to deny custody, defames him in the Church, and leaves him in financial ruin.
That’s why we call it Total Depravity.
@Professor Hale
There are a whole bunch of “scientists” who use that line of argument to justify their “anthropogenic global warming” agenda.
i’m writing a paper, and i don’t like to use information without being able to back it up
thx Cubbie … i’ll ck that out & let you know if i need more help
Ame…Let me know what you find out…I wonder what reasons the women gave for filing and the reasons the men gave. However, I still would have to agree with ReconsDad…total depravity cuts both ways..
@ReconsDad
I just don’t trust statistics. Too many variables.
@Tha Possum
That all depends. It is fair to first look at the source, and evaluate their quality. I.e., who was evaluated? Where was the data collected? What length of time was involved? How many regions were involved? How did the stats vary among regions? Any study is subject to the rigor of free inquiry. This includes producing the data that was used.
(BTW: this is one of the key problems in the global warming debate: the very data that was used to produce the mathematical models that are in question, has yet to be produced, and the “scientists” involved have been caught deliberately cherry-picking the data that favored them.)
I know this much: MRA/MGTOW groups love it when they see that 2/3 number, even as they dismiss realities that don’t seem favorable to them; likewise, feminist groups love to tout the spouse abuse stats that favor them, even as they define “abuse” down to the point where it demeans legitimate victims.
We can all come up with reasons for why these happen, but dismissing stats without looking at the details, is not intellectually honest, even when they aren’t favorable from a prima facie standpoint.
There’s nothing pretty about divorce. I’ve been there–as a kid, saw two of them. Trust me, it sucks when you’re one of the kids involved. But dismissing stats without looking at the details, we don’t cater to that approach around here.
@LadyElaine
Those questions are not easily-answered in the stats. But yes, it would be interesting to note what the particular rationales given, happen to be.
Here’s another angle I’d like to see: of those who claim spousal abuse, how many of them actually had filed charges, versus those who are merely claiming this in divorce court? (This goes for both male and female filers.)
Here is a magazine article (this week’s Weekly Standard) which mentions a name and a university (page 8 of the online version) which you might be able to follow up on. He uses the “2/3” figure.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/new-dating-game?page=8
noseintheair – thanks; very much appreciated … i’ll ck that out
Amir has made some crucial points, which is why gathering accurate information – or as accurate as possible, is critical b4 just throwing info out there to a group of people who is more than likely completely unaware of these issues we discuss out here.
after i was married the first time, my ex went back to school to get his MBA and set the curve in all his classes, including statistics. if there’s one thing i learned … stats depend on how you ask the question – almost anything can be proven by how one asks the question. so while stats are sometimes the best source we have for information, they still need to be viewed realistically.
as i’ve looked around some, the source of the site reporting the statistics is important to me. i’ve also had a difficult time finding the source of the source … for example, i’ve seen that 2/3 stat quoted, but the original source of that quote seems elusive (or elusive to me). i’d also like to know who determined that stat and who hired them to discover that stat and what questions they asked and where they got their info from.
@noseintheair
Anakin could have written that article. LOL