Vox and Captain Capitalism: It’s Both/And, not Either/Or

Yesterday, Vox Day provided an assessment of the gender gap in college degrees. Captain Capitalism, in turn, pointed out that the numbers don’t tell the whole story: (a) when you factor in engineering and hard science degrees, men are outperforming the women by a wide margin, and (b) women are getting the bulk of the meaningless degrees that are largely available due to a bubble economy in higher-ed, and therefore will not be advancing in the world.

While my sentiments are with Captain Capitalism, I think both of them are hitting some important points:

(1) Women are getting the bulk of the college degrees, even if they are not dominating in engineering and hard sciences. This is the result of an education system that has been waging war on men and boys for almost a century. That the corporate culture outside academia, sadly, has embraced a large part of that politically-correct agenda, does lend credence to the premise that Vox is correct.

(2) At the same time, women are going to bear the brunt of the pain when things majorly go south. Because they are getting the bulk of the degrees, and because those degrees are more likely to be worth a roll of used toilet paper, and because those degrees will carry a mother lode of student loan debt, the women are going to be impacted when the economy ultimately collapses. Their degrees will not land them substantive jobs, they will not be able to service their student loans, and the men will run from them because they will choose not to be yoked to that baggage.

I have some female friends–recent college graduates–who have five figures of student loan debt, degrees in non-specialty fields, and very few substantive job leads.  And no, they don’t have any remote marital prospects, either.

Oh, and Vox provides an excellent piece showing a mother-daughter fight over a college route. Kudos to the mom.

Had enough of feminism yet?

6 thoughts on “Vox and Captain Capitalism: It’s Both/And, not Either/Or

  1. as a mom, i’ve always tried to give my kids the facts they need and the freedom to choose. there are some non-negotiables, but otherwise, i try to provide an environment where they learn to fail as well as succeed. one of my non-negotiables is absolutely no debt for college. of course, once they’re 18, i can’t control that, but i can continue to give them the truth. i don’t just tell them no debt, i tell them why and let them discern the truth. my oldest daughter will be 16 this month. she has 3 financial goals upon getting a job. first, she wants to buy her own laptop. 2nd she wants to buy her own car. and 3rd she wants to buy her own house. love it. she has ideas about what she wants to do, what she’s good at, but she doesn’t have real-life experience, and she knows it. i teach my girls that, in this world, we can discover an unlimited number of things we *can* do and even that we *like* doing, but discerning what God wants us to do and making wise choices is a whole different thing. my other daughter who is 13 thinks she would like to have a small farm and provide her own food and have lots of animals – she would do great with something like this (we go to a farm every week, so she’s familiar with the life).

    i’m not one of these parents who thinks ‘the sky’s the limit.’ that’s just not true. there’s a price to everything. determine your values. develop your character. discern your strengths and weaknesses. and actively follow God. life is not perfect. life is not fair, just, or equal. but your life is not without purpose, either. God has a plan, a purpose, and fulfilling that is, to me, everything.

    i’m also not one of those who thinks that God’s plan is always this huge, monstrous, visibly-change-the-world, thing. that’s true for some, but not for most. we all change the world by being here, and when we face Jesus, and our lives are set to flame, i pray that what’s left when the fire goes out is more than ashes.

  2. That’s the thing: Dirty Harry’s Law–“A man’s got to know his limitations”–applies across the board. Knowing what you DON’T know is every bit as important as knowing what you DO know.

    This is majorly true regarding choosing your life direction, especially where it involves higher education.

    Oh, and having your own farm is probably a very good choice: on top of the potential of independence, it puts you in a position where you are actually producing for the economy.

    • “That’s the thing: Dirty Harry’s Law–”A man’s got to know his limitations”–applies across the board. Knowing what you DON’T know is every bit as important as knowing what you DO know.”

      AMEN!

      we all have weaknesses … (oops, is that not politically correct to say anymore!)

      and that is okay … it is normal. know them. accept them. work with them.

      the best part … my daughter said, “Mommy, I’ll bring you milk and eggs. You’re my Mom! I’ll take care of you!” i have awesome kids!

  3. … women are going to bear the brunt of the pain when things majorly go south.

    What makes you think this? Women’s degrees have always been irrelevant to their stability since they can always exercise the “married with children” option and depend on their husband to pay their bills and not their degree. For as long as women have been permitted to earn degrees in anything, their education has been seen as a hobby at best, and as a “finishing school” to make them into interesting companions.

    So, they have more options than men. They have all their own options, plus all the options that their man has.

    • That’s an easy one. For one thing, their options aren’t as likely to be as plenteous as they would have been in previous generations.

      (1) They are less likely to be married than your generation or mine;

      (2) Because they are going to be saddled with a LOT of student loan debt, they are going to be less likely to have marital prospects even in a marriage marketplace that is already strained;

      (3) That student loan debt is going to force them to work longer and harder than they anticipated they would have had to work;

      (4) Because those women occupy many cushy mid-level positions in the corporate sector–as well as state and local and federal government–they will find out how quickly their jobs can evaporate in a bad economy, and a large number of women are going to find themselves jobless and without the opportunities they were led to believe they would have.

      Many women are going to find out–the hard way–what a bitch the payback can be.

  4. Here’s an example of what I am talking about.

    The recession has hammered Ms. Neisius: her mobility has shifted downward and not upward, and this in spite of the fact that there are plenty of jobs in North Dakota. (The problem is, the jobs available aren’t in her bailiwick.)

    As a result, she not only has a harder time making ends meet, she is having a harder time saving for retirement, even though she is at a critical age where saving for such becomes imperative of one wishes to have any hopes of having sufficient assets in one’s later years.

    I say none of this to pile onto her–I don’t know her and therefore I cannot answer for her life or her politics–but just to point out that women are going to be more likely to be in her boat when things start going Tango Uniform.

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